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	<title>Comments on: How We Save Money On Our Telephone Bills</title>
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		<title>By: Paul from Jingle</title>
		<link>http://notmadeofmoney.com/blog/2007/06/how-we-save-money-on-our-telephone-bill.html/comment-page-1#comment-23769</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul from Jingle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another way the phone companies gouge consumers is through charging about $2 per 411 call.  Altogether, Americans pay about $7 billion per year on unnecessary 411 charges; they&#039;re unnecessary because there are free, ad-supported directory assistance numbers like 1-800-Free411.  People have also mentioned Skype, so it&#039;s worth noting that you can search for listings at free411.com and then connect to those listings from the website via Skype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way the phone companies gouge consumers is through charging about $2 per 411 call.  Altogether, Americans pay about $7 billion per year on unnecessary 411 charges; they&#8217;re unnecessary because there are free, ad-supported directory assistance numbers like 1-800-Free411.  People have also mentioned Skype, so it&#8217;s worth noting that you can search for listings at free411.com and then connect to those listings from the website via Skype.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Clasko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Clasko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 01:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using SKYPE (OUT) almost exclusively now. Quality is excellent but even better to folks that are Skye members so there&#039;s absolutely ZERO charge above my hi-speed DSL charges...I just got a larger than norm bill from Verizon which I&#039;ve already succeeded in getting a 10 dollar credit (but not until the July bill) refunded. I&#039;m going for a much larger amount this coming week...I will not allow them to corral me into a certain level of customer service then leave me to do or die. I WILL climb as high as I need to. I can use SKYPE out to keep them on as long as I see fit. ALL they can do is cut-off my service and put another tick mark on my credit if they refuse to accept my conditions....I pay for 900 minutes. I&#039;ve already, by just glancing at my bill, found serveral calls that would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to have made from the city they claim they originated from (We&#039;re talking 30 miles away. The times, dates,and distance. No way)

I actually get better cell service for what I need on my Net10 Prepaid phone. Verizon network capacity is woefully lacking in Central South Carolina the result being MANY a dropped call. (Pretty much up from Columbia to almost Greenville along the I-26 corridor. Service drastically improves at the split of I-385 and I-26 near one of the Clinton exits). Their customer service agents are rude WHEN you can even understand the bad accents and poor grammar. I only use the Verizon for 803 calls BUT seeing as I don&#039;t live their anymore, telling friends I know to use SKYPE software makes tons more sense. OR they can call my 864 Net10 phone instead. 

With Net10 and Skype, I have all that I need. DSL charges need to come down ofcourse and ATT/BELLSOUTH make it impossible to have Naked DSL without going with Cingular (which I hate even worse than Verizon)Wireless. I&#039;ll look into getting the cheapest POTS service here with the DSL though to say maybe 10 bux a month that way. 

Sorry about the ramblin&#039; rant BUT we ARE the customers.I&#039;m not trying to cheat anyone but I&#039;ll be damned if I&#039;m going to be cheated either. 
Consumer activism is on-the-move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using SKYPE (OUT) almost exclusively now. Quality is excellent but even better to folks that are Skye members so there&#8217;s absolutely ZERO charge above my hi-speed DSL charges&#8230;I just got a larger than norm bill from Verizon which I&#8217;ve already succeeded in getting a 10 dollar credit (but not until the July bill) refunded. I&#8217;m going for a much larger amount this coming week&#8230;I will not allow them to corral me into a certain level of customer service then leave me to do or die. I WILL climb as high as I need to. I can use SKYPE out to keep them on as long as I see fit. ALL they can do is cut-off my service and put another tick mark on my credit if they refuse to accept my conditions&#8230;.I pay for 900 minutes. I&#8217;ve already, by just glancing at my bill, found serveral calls that would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to have made from the city they claim they originated from (We&#8217;re talking 30 miles away. The times, dates,and distance. No way)</p>
<p>I actually get better cell service for what I need on my Net10 Prepaid phone. Verizon network capacity is woefully lacking in Central South Carolina the result being MANY a dropped call. (Pretty much up from Columbia to almost Greenville along the I-26 corridor. Service drastically improves at the split of I-385 and I-26 near one of the Clinton exits). Their customer service agents are rude WHEN you can even understand the bad accents and poor grammar. I only use the Verizon for 803 calls BUT seeing as I don&#8217;t live their anymore, telling friends I know to use SKYPE software makes tons more sense. OR they can call my 864 Net10 phone instead. </p>
<p>With Net10 and Skype, I have all that I need. DSL charges need to come down ofcourse and ATT/BELLSOUTH make it impossible to have Naked DSL without going with Cingular (which I hate even worse than Verizon)Wireless. I&#8217;ll look into getting the cheapest POTS service here with the DSL though to say maybe 10 bux a month that way. </p>
<p>Sorry about the ramblin&#8217; rant BUT we ARE the customers.I&#8217;m not trying to cheat anyone but I&#8217;ll be damned if I&#8217;m going to be cheated either.<br />
Consumer activism is on-the-move.</p>
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		<title>By: WearyTraveler</title>
		<link>http://notmadeofmoney.com/blog/2007/06/how-we-save-money-on-our-telephone-bill.html/comment-page-1#comment-15729</link>
		<dc:creator>WearyTraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 02:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I travel extensively and use Skype.  I got the 1/2 price deal for $15 per year.  We &quot;Skype In&quot; to my girl&#039;s daughter out of state, and &quot;Skype out&quot; to all others.  We have a vmall vacation home where there&#039;s no cellular coverage.  I load up Skype and call out on the network.  When I&#039;m overseas, the calls are free!
Skype is a great deal, even at the current $30 per year.  Much better, cost wise (I don&#039;t know about the quality), than Vonage&#039;s monthly fees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I travel extensively and use Skype.  I got the 1/2 price deal for $15 per year.  We &#8220;Skype In&#8221; to my girl&#8217;s daughter out of state, and &#8220;Skype out&#8221; to all others.  We have a vmall vacation home where there&#8217;s no cellular coverage.  I load up Skype and call out on the network.  When I&#8217;m overseas, the calls are free!<br />
Skype is a great deal, even at the current $30 per year.  Much better, cost wise (I don&#8217;t know about the quality), than Vonage&#8217;s monthly fees!</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife and I did much the same thing, but I think we&#039;ve managed to take it a step further.

We have the most basic $15/month phone from comcast which is used by our security system and all incoming calls.

We use skype for long distance. That works out to $15/year (fixed rate, we got it during a 1/2 off deal), plus the occasional call to my brother in Switzerland (2 cents/minute).

Now the kicker: Cellphone.

T-mobile is by far the best deal for low usage cells. After you spend $100 on t-mobile prepay minutes you get a 10 cent/minute rate. Minutes expire after 1 year. Purchasing additional minutes extends the expiration date by one year. Here is the break down:

Initial investment: 2 phones from Walmart, $35/each. Each phone includes a $10 giftcard. $100/phone buying the first 1000 minutes.

That&#039;s $270 for the first year of use of 2 cell phones. We are extremely low use customers, so that means after 1 year we each have well over 1/2 of our minutes still available. So, a $10 topup for each phone is in order, to extend the minutes by 1 year.

That works out to the first 2 years of cellphone usage costing us $290. That&#039;s $12/month for 2 phones total. And, each year the deal gets sweeter, assuming our minutes don&#039;t jump up for some reason.

-Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife and I did much the same thing, but I think we&#8217;ve managed to take it a step further.</p>
<p>We have the most basic $15/month phone from comcast which is used by our security system and all incoming calls.</p>
<p>We use skype for long distance. That works out to $15/year (fixed rate, we got it during a 1/2 off deal), plus the occasional call to my brother in Switzerland (2 cents/minute).</p>
<p>Now the kicker: Cellphone.</p>
<p>T-mobile is by far the best deal for low usage cells. After you spend $100 on t-mobile prepay minutes you get a 10 cent/minute rate. Minutes expire after 1 year. Purchasing additional minutes extends the expiration date by one year. Here is the break down:</p>
<p>Initial investment: 2 phones from Walmart, $35/each. Each phone includes a $10 giftcard. $100/phone buying the first 1000 minutes.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s $270 for the first year of use of 2 cell phones. We are extremely low use customers, so that means after 1 year we each have well over 1/2 of our minutes still available. So, a $10 topup for each phone is in order, to extend the minutes by 1 year.</p>
<p>That works out to the first 2 years of cellphone usage costing us $290. That&#8217;s $12/month for 2 phones total. And, each year the deal gets sweeter, assuming our minutes don&#8217;t jump up for some reason.</p>
<p>-Jason</p>
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